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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my awesome T-Mobile story.  I purchased a blackberry for work and signed up for two years of service. For the first few weeks everything was ok, but then I switched to the 40th floor of my building and no longer got any reception at my office, where I spend 90% of my time.  For the next month, I made maybe ten calls on the thing, 8 of which were dropped.  Then began my saga of trying to get some kind of settlement where T-Mobile would let me out of my contract at some kind of discount.  The way I see it is thus, I agreed to pay for two yeras of service.  They agreed to provide service in thier coverage area.  Since they can&#039;t provide some of the service, I should not have to pay all of the penalties for early termination.

I called at about 6PM from my work phone.  Got to speak to the first representative at about 7PM.

I very nicely explained that I was not getting service in my office and would need to cancel my contract and return the phone.

The rep went from zero to gladiator mode about two seconds after I said &quot;cancel.&quot;

He told me that I could not be telling the truth about the dead spot because I had made 10 calls from &quot;that area&quot; in the last two months.

I explained to him that sometimes I could get a very week signal and pick up a call, but it would always be garbled and dropped within a few minutes.

He countered that since they couldn&#039;t verify that claim, he could not give me any discounts.

I invited him to send a representative to my office to try and make some calls.  He responded that I was now being unreasonable.

And then things started getting strange.

Every cell phone contract has a binding arbitration clause.  I know little a bit about these clauses because I am a class action lawyer (mostly defense) and had attended a seminar on cell phone arbitration clauses as a mechanism to avoid class actions.  When you sign your contract you give up the right to sue the cell phone company in a convenient forum like small claims court in favor of what they argue is a more efficient arbitration.  I remember the representative from the cell phone company defending their arbitration policy as fair and easy to invoke at the seminar.  I had always wondered if it were true and now had a chance to satisfy my curiosity...


&quot;Well, it looks like we have a dispute that you and I can&#039;t resolve, is there a dispute resolution process at your company?&quot;

&quot;No, not that I know of.&quot;

&quot;Well, it says in the my contract that instead of bringing a small claims action to settle our dispute, I have to use your arbitration program, are you aware of that procedure?&quot;

&quot;You need to talk to my supervisor about that.&quot;

&quot;Ok, could you transfer me?&quot;

&quot;Actually, she is not available, she will have to call you back.&quot;

****************24 Hours Pass*************

I call again, and explained that I was waiting for a phone call.

&quot;I don&#039;t have any notes on your account about that sir.&quot;

&quot;Fantastic.&quot;  [went though it from the beginning].

&quot;You would have to speak to my supervisor about that.&quot;

&quot;Great, could you transfer me?&quot;

&quot;There may be a long wait, would it be better for you to have her call you back.&quot;

&quot;Not really, I&#039;ve already tried that and.&quot;

&quot;So you would rather hold?&quot;

&quot;I would rather speak to her now.  But I&#039;ll hold.&quot;

*******30 minutes later******

I get someone named &quot;Sholanda&quot; who picks up the phone in FULL on battle mode.

&quot;What can I help you with.&quot; (very bruskly)

[I explain the whole situation].

&quot;....So what I think could resolve the situation is if you give me a credit back for the two months that I did not get service [about 150$], and I&#039;ll pay the 200$ cancellation fee and return the phone.  Or I&#039;ll pay for the two months service, and return the phone if you caqn waive the 200$ cancellation fee.&quot;

&quot;I canâ€™t do any of that, you had 14 days to make sure your service was OK, and this is the first time you called.&quot;

[I explained about changing offices after the 14 days].

&quot;I can&#039;t verify those claims.&quot;

&quot;Well, it appears we have reached an impasse, and I think I need to invoke the arbitration procedures in the contract.&quot;

&quot;I don&#039;t know what you are talking about.&quot;

&quot;The arbitration procedure in the contract I signed.  I am going to need an arbitrator to settle our dispute.&quot;

&quot;Could you please hold?&quot;

&quot;I suppose.&quot;

*****20 Minutes Later*****

&quot;You have to speak with our legal department about the arbitration.&quot;

&quot;Great, could you transfer me?&quot;

&quot;No, you have to have your lawyer write them a letter.&quot;

&quot;It would be more convenient for me to speak to them on the phone.&quot;

&quot;Legal does not talk to customers, they will only speak to your lawyer.&quot;

&quot;But I am representing myself in this dispute.  I can&#039;t do that?&quot;

&quot;No, legal will only speak to your lawyer.&quot;

&quot;Would it help if I told you I was a lawyer?&quot;

&quot;No, you are a customer, you need to hire a lawyer.&quot;

&quot;So the only way to resolve this $200 dispute is to hire a lawyer?&quot;

&quot;No, you can pay the charges.&quot;

&quot;Really?  I can just pay the charges?&quot;

[silence].

&quot;Ok, can I write them a letter without a lawyer and ask for an arbitrator?&quot;

&quot;Yes, but they may not respond.&quot;

&quot;Did you really just say that?&quot;

&quot;Excuse me?&quot;

&quot;Never mind.&quot;

&quot;What about an email? That would be easier for me.&quot;

&quot;No, our legal department does not have an email address, you have to write a letter.&quot;

&quot;Your lawyers doesnâ€™t have email address?&quot;

&quot;No.&quot;

&quot;Seriously?&quot;

[silence].

&quot;Do you realize that that sounds a little unbelievable?&quot;

[silence].

&quot;Ok, to recap, the only way to start the arbitration process to write a letter to legal, to which they may or may not respond?&quot;

&quot;They will only talk to your lawyer.&quot;

&quot;Right.  I have to hire a lawyer to resolve my $200 dispute.&quot;

&quot;No. It is your choice whether or not to hire a lawyer.  You can resolve the dispute by paying the charges.&quot;

&quot;Oh yeah, I forgot about that.&quot;

&quot;May I have the address?&quot;

[gives me the address].

I wrote a letter.  It has been two weeks with no response.  I am not holding my breath.  I am emotionally preparing myself for round two on the phone.  I think I may record my next conversation for quality control and training purposes.

Oh, and someone mentioned the idea of a class action lawsuit earlier.  Forget it.  The federal judiciary has all but eliminated class action lawsuits in the past 10 years.  And, coincidently, when you signed your cell phone contract you agreed not to bring a class action lawsuit, and courts across the country have held these clauses to be enforceable.  Because, you know, all lawsuits are bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my awesome T-Mobile story.  I purchased a blackberry for work and signed up for two years of service. For the first few weeks everything was ok, but then I switched to the 40th floor of my building and no longer got any reception at my office, where I spend 90% of my time.  For the next month, I made maybe ten calls on the thing, 8 of which were dropped.  Then began my saga of trying to get some kind of settlement where T-Mobile would let me out of my contract at some kind of discount.  The way I see it is thus, I agreed to pay for two yeras of service.  They agreed to provide service in thier coverage area.  Since they can&#8217;t provide some of the service, I should not have to pay all of the penalties for early termination.</p>
<p>I called at about 6PM from my work phone.  Got to speak to the first representative at about 7PM.</p>
<p>I very nicely explained that I was not getting service in my office and would need to cancel my contract and return the phone.</p>
<p>The rep went from zero to gladiator mode about two seconds after I said &#8220;cancel.&#8221;</p>
<p>He told me that I could not be telling the truth about the dead spot because I had made 10 calls from &#8220;that area&#8221; in the last two months.</p>
<p>I explained to him that sometimes I could get a very week signal and pick up a call, but it would always be garbled and dropped within a few minutes.</p>
<p>He countered that since they couldn&#8217;t verify that claim, he could not give me any discounts.</p>
<p>I invited him to send a representative to my office to try and make some calls.  He responded that I was now being unreasonable.</p>
<p>And then things started getting strange.</p>
<p>Every cell phone contract has a binding arbitration clause.  I know little a bit about these clauses because I am a class action lawyer (mostly defense) and had attended a seminar on cell phone arbitration clauses as a mechanism to avoid class actions.  When you sign your contract you give up the right to sue the cell phone company in a convenient forum like small claims court in favor of what they argue is a more efficient arbitration.  I remember the representative from the cell phone company defending their arbitration policy as fair and easy to invoke at the seminar.  I had always wondered if it were true and now had a chance to satisfy my curiosity&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, it looks like we have a dispute that you and I can&#8217;t resolve, is there a dispute resolution process at your company?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, not that I know of.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, it says in the my contract that instead of bringing a small claims action to settle our dispute, I have to use your arbitration program, are you aware of that procedure?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You need to talk to my supervisor about that.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ok, could you transfer me?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Actually, she is not available, she will have to call you back.&#8221;</p>
<p>****************24 Hours Pass*************</p>
<p>I call again, and explained that I was waiting for a phone call.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t have any notes on your account about that sir.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Fantastic.&#8221;  [went though it from the beginning].</p>
<p>&#8220;You would have to speak to my supervisor about that.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Great, could you transfer me?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There may be a long wait, would it be better for you to have her call you back.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Not really, I&#8217;ve already tried that and.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;So you would rather hold?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I would rather speak to her now.  But I&#8217;ll hold.&#8221;</p>
<p>*******30 minutes later******</p>
<p>I get someone named &#8220;Sholanda&#8221; who picks up the phone in FULL on battle mode.</p>
<p>&#8220;What can I help you with.&#8221; (very bruskly)</p>
<p>[I explain the whole situation].</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.So what I think could resolve the situation is if you give me a credit back for the two months that I did not get service [about 150$], and I&#8217;ll pay the 200$ cancellation fee and return the phone.  Or I&#8217;ll pay for the two months service, and return the phone if you caqn waive the 200$ cancellation fee.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I canâ€™t do any of that, you had 14 days to make sure your service was OK, and this is the first time you called.&#8221;</p>
<p>[I explained about changing offices after the 14 days].</p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t verify those claims.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, it appears we have reached an impasse, and I think I need to invoke the arbitration procedures in the contract.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know what you are talking about.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The arbitration procedure in the contract I signed.  I am going to need an arbitrator to settle our dispute.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Could you please hold?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I suppose.&#8221;</p>
<p>*****20 Minutes Later*****</p>
<p>&#8220;You have to speak with our legal department about the arbitration.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Great, could you transfer me?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, you have to have your lawyer write them a letter.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It would be more convenient for me to speak to them on the phone.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Legal does not talk to customers, they will only speak to your lawyer.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But I am representing myself in this dispute.  I can&#8217;t do that?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, legal will only speak to your lawyer.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Would it help if I told you I was a lawyer?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, you are a customer, you need to hire a lawyer.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;So the only way to resolve this $200 dispute is to hire a lawyer?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, you can pay the charges.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Really?  I can just pay the charges?&#8221;</p>
<p>[silence].</p>
<p>&#8220;Ok, can I write them a letter without a lawyer and ask for an arbitrator?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, but they may not respond.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Did you really just say that?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Excuse me?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Never mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What about an email? That would be easier for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, our legal department does not have an email address, you have to write a letter.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Your lawyers doesnâ€™t have email address?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Seriously?&#8221;</p>
<p>[silence].</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you realize that that sounds a little unbelievable?&#8221;</p>
<p>[silence].</p>
<p>&#8220;Ok, to recap, the only way to start the arbitration process to write a letter to legal, to which they may or may not respond?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;They will only talk to your lawyer.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Right.  I have to hire a lawyer to resolve my $200 dispute.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No. It is your choice whether or not to hire a lawyer.  You can resolve the dispute by paying the charges.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh yeah, I forgot about that.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;May I have the address?&#8221;</p>
<p>[gives me the address].</p>
<p>I wrote a letter.  It has been two weeks with no response.  I am not holding my breath.  I am emotionally preparing myself for round two on the phone.  I think I may record my next conversation for quality control and training purposes.</p>
<p>Oh, and someone mentioned the idea of a class action lawsuit earlier.  Forget it.  The federal judiciary has all but eliminated class action lawsuits in the past 10 years.  And, coincidently, when you signed your cell phone contract you agreed not to bring a class action lawsuit, and courts across the country have held these clauses to be enforceable.  Because, you know, all lawsuits are bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://jasonenglish1.com/2007/02/03/my-marathon-with-sprint/comment-page-1/#comment-61318</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My nightmare was with T-Moblie.  My company switched to T-Moblie and offered all employees a great deal to switch our personal service.  I switched mine and my husband&#039;s service but had 30 days to cancel if we were not happy.  Well, T-Moblie&#039;s service did not get resecption at my husband&#039;s work so I cancelled the next day and returned my phones to the rep.  3 weeks later I got a bill for a months service and the full cost of the phones.  I called customer service and they revesed the usage charges but not the cost of the phone because they did not have record of the phones being returned.  6 MONTHS, uncounted number of phone calls to T-Moblie and the rep and a collection notice later.  They figured out they had mismarked the phones when they were returned and &quot;corrected&quot; the situation.  The company I worked for also had issues with service and the phone bills (I&#039;m in Finance so I know the issues) and after 1 year switched from T-Moblie.  
I will never, ever go back to T-Moblie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My nightmare was with T-Moblie.  My company switched to T-Moblie and offered all employees a great deal to switch our personal service.  I switched mine and my husband&#8217;s service but had 30 days to cancel if we were not happy.  Well, T-Moblie&#8217;s service did not get resecption at my husband&#8217;s work so I cancelled the next day and returned my phones to the rep.  3 weeks later I got a bill for a months service and the full cost of the phones.  I called customer service and they revesed the usage charges but not the cost of the phone because they did not have record of the phones being returned.  6 MONTHS, uncounted number of phone calls to T-Moblie and the rep and a collection notice later.  They figured out they had mismarked the phones when they were returned and &#8220;corrected&#8221; the situation.  The company I worked for also had issues with service and the phone bills (I&#8217;m in Finance so I know the issues) and after 1 year switched from T-Moblie.<br />
I will never, ever go back to T-Moblie.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason English: The Website</title>
		<link>http://jasonenglish1.com/2007/02/03/my-marathon-with-sprint/comment-page-1/#comment-53183</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason English: The Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yes, it lacks the story arc of my Sprint customer service nightmare. I promise to spend 3-4 hours on my rebuttal to their inevitable &#8220;The Satisfaction Guarantee is not valid on major holidays&#8221; canned response.     &#160;   &#171; Vote Bailey &#124;   &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yes, it lacks the story arc of my Sprint customer service nightmare. I promise to spend 3-4 hours on my rebuttal to their inevitable &#8220;The Satisfaction Guarantee is not valid on major holidays&#8221; canned response.     &nbsp;   &laquo; Vote Bailey |   &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: An Open Letter to Sprint CEO Gary Forsee &#187; jasonenglish1.com</title>
		<link>http://jasonenglish1.com/2007/02/03/my-marathon-with-sprint/comment-page-1/#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>An Open Letter to Sprint CEO Gary Forsee &#187; jasonenglish1.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Saturday I posted a rambling diary documenting my dealings with Sprint Customer Care. My latest bill includes $630 in fraudulent charges and the 108-year-old telcom company is unable and unwilling to help. Their answers â€“ &#8220;We&#8217;ll give you a $150 credit&#8221; and &#8220;We won&#8217;t charge you for the accessories you were told were free&#8221; and &#8220;We&#8217;ll make you eligible for a mail-in rebate&#8221; â€“ have only heightened my anger. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On Saturday I posted a rambling diary documenting my dealings with Sprint Customer Care. My latest bill includes $630 in fraudulent charges and the 108-year-old telcom company is unable and unwilling to help. Their answers â€“ &#8220;We&#8217;ll give you a $150 credit&#8221; and &#8220;We won&#8217;t charge you for the accessories you were told were free&#8221; and &#8220;We&#8217;ll make you eligible for a mail-in rebate&#8221; â€“ have only heightened my anger. [...]</p>
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